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What would you do..?

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  • I completely disagree. If you want to be pearl-clutchy go right ahead, but don't pretend that you speak for "American culture". Culture is always changing. With the number of tattooed people increasing every day, acceptance of tattoos is increasing as well. Don't want a tattoo? Don't get one. But in my opinion, judging me for mine is akin to judging me by the colour of my skin. You're free to make that judgment, and I'm free to think you're ignorant for doing so.

     FYI, my Indian friend is Indo-Canadian. In your way of thinking, is there a difference between a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in India, and a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in Western culture? Is one somehow more acceptable? Please clarify.

    By the way, I'd love to see you present your point of view on tattoos to your home board. I wonder how many tattooed people you could offend there.

    TTC # 1 since May 2010
    </br>DH: 28; superhero sperm (probably w/ little capes & tights)</br>ME: 30; Factor V Leiden blood disorder; once elevated prolactin levels, now normal; clear HSG; normal vag-cams
    </br>Diagnosis: unexplained IF
    </br>4 rounds of 100 mg Clomid = 4 BFNs
    </br>IUI # 1 Oct 24/12: 100 mg Clomid, Prometrium
    </br>First ever BFP Nov 8/12! Stick, baby, stick!
    </br>

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  • image jez_girl:

    I completely disagree. If you want to be pearl-clutchy go right ahead, but don't pretend that you speak for "American culture". Culture is always changing. With the number of tattooed people increasing every day, acceptance of tattoos is increasing as well. Don't want a tattoo? Don't get one. But in my opinion, judging me for mine is akin to judging me by the colour of my skin. You're free to make that judgment, and I'm free to think you're ignorant for doing so.

     FYI, my Indian friend is Indo-Canadian. In your way of thinking, is there a difference between a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in India, and a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in Western culture? Is one somehow more acceptable? Please clarify.

    By the way, I'd love to see you present your point of view on tattoos to your home board. I wonder how many tattooed people you could offend there.

     

    love this. : ) but, we're just teenagers rebelling right? haha

  • image jez_girl:

    I completely disagree. If you want to be pearl-clutchy go right ahead, but don't pretend that you speak for "American culture". Culture is always changing. With the number of tattooed people increasing every day, acceptance of tattoos is increasing as well. Don't want a tattoo? Don't get one. But in my opinion, judging me for mine is akin to judging me by the colour of my skin. You're free to make that judgment, and I'm free to think you're ignorant for doing so.

     FYI, my Indian friend is Indo-Canadian. In your way of thinking, is there a difference between a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in India, and a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in Western culture? Is one somehow more acceptable? Please clarify.

    By the way, I'd love to see you present your point of view on tattoos to your home board. I wonder how many tattooed people you could offend there.

     

    They've all heard it, and they know it's the truth.  Yes, tattoos are becoming more common, but that is coincidentally (or not) coinciding with the well-documented pornification of our culture.  Tattoos aren't looking classier - more people are just looking trashy.

    It's not a question of what's acceptable - it's a question of what social class you want to belong to.  And with tattoos, you're limited to middle and under at best.

    Argue all you want, but it's the truth, and as for you, OP, you're not likely to get anywhere with your mother without acknowledging what she's actually upset about and addressing that.

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  • image ReturnOfKuus:
    image jez_girl:

    I completely disagree. If you want to be pearl-clutchy go right ahead, but don't pretend that you speak for "American culture". Culture is always changing. With the number of tattooed people increasing every day, acceptance of tattoos is increasing as well. Don't want a tattoo? Don't get one. But in my opinion, judging me for mine is akin to judging me by the colour of my skin. You're free to make that judgment, and I'm free to think you're ignorant for doing so.

     FYI, my Indian friend is Indo-Canadian. In your way of thinking, is there a difference between a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in India, and a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in Western culture? Is one somehow more acceptable? Please clarify.

    By the way, I'd love to see you present your point of view on tattoos to your home board. I wonder how many tattooed people you could offend there.

     

    They've all heard it, and they know it's the truth.  Yes, tattoos are becoming more common, but that is coincidentally (or not) coinciding with the well-documented pornification of our culture.  Tattoos aren't looking classier - more people are just looking trashy.

    It's not a question of what's acceptable - it's a question of what social class you want to belong to.  And with tattoos, you're limited to middle and under at best.

    Argue all you want, but it's the truth, and as for you, OP, you're not likely to get anywhere with your mother without acknowledging what she's actually upset about and addressing that.

    i'm gonna have to agree with this.  i usually agree with everything kuus says, even though i only usually lurk.  and jez, you only coming in here to yell and protest makes you sound like an ignorant idiot.  we can all have our different opinions, certainly, but you still sound stupid when you try to disagree on this topic, especially since you can't seem to defend your point in an educated and/or mature manner.  oh, well. 

  • image ReturnOfKuus:
    image jez_girl:

    I completely disagree. If you want to be pearl-clutchy go right ahead, but don't pretend that you speak for "American culture". Culture is always changing. With the number of tattooed people increasing every day, acceptance of tattoos is increasing as well. Don't want a tattoo? Don't get one. But in my opinion, judging me for mine is akin to judging me by the colour of my skin. You're free to make that judgment, and I'm free to think you're ignorant for doing so.

     FYI, my Indian friend is Indo-Canadian. In your way of thinking, is there a difference between a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in India, and a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in Western culture? Is one somehow more acceptable? Please clarify.

    By the way, I'd love to see you present your point of view on tattoos to your home board. I wonder how many tattooed people you could offend there.

     

    They've all heard it, and they know it's the truth.  Yes, tattoos are becoming more common, but that is coincidentally (or not) coinciding with the well-documented pornification of our culture.  Tattoos aren't looking classier - more people are just looking trashy.

    It's not a question of what's acceptable - it's a question of what social class you want to belong to.  And with tattoos, you're limited to middle and under at best.

    Argue all you want, but it's the truth, and as for you, OP, you're not likely to get anywhere with your mother without acknowledging what she's actually upset about and addressing that.

    Kuus, you're full of shiit. You sit there and tell everyone with a tattoo that they're "middle [class] or under", and the only justification you have for your argument is that 'that's the way it is- everyone knows it'. Not everyone thinks the way you do. Not everyone judges as you do. Making blanket statements just proves how narrow-minded and irrational you are.

    Why do you ignore my questions about tattoos in different cultures? Tattooing has been practiced all around the world by MANY cultures- Japanese, Polynesian, African, Arabic, Turkish, Taiwanese, Maori, and many European peoples have all performed tattoos for centuries, to name a few. Do all tattoos indicate lower class, or just the ones in the Western world? Please show your work. (By the way, I'd actually like an answer here, and answers to all the other questions I've asked you about your 'white trash' theory- keeping in mind that you don't speak for everyone, and that you do not dictate 'social class', of course. Unless you can't back up your opinion.)

    If you could see past your American arrogance for a moment, that'd be just great. Since you're unlikely to see reason, though, I'll just be over here thanking God that I'm not in YOUR class.

    TTC # 1 since May 2010
    </br>DH: 28; superhero sperm (probably w/ little capes & tights)</br>ME: 30; Factor V Leiden blood disorder; once elevated prolactin levels, now normal; clear HSG; normal vag-cams
    </br>Diagnosis: unexplained IF
    </br>4 rounds of 100 mg Clomid = 4 BFNs
    </br>IUI # 1 Oct 24/12: 100 mg Clomid, Prometrium
    </br>First ever BFP Nov 8/12! Stick, baby, stick!
    </br>

    <a href="http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=boy&utm_medium=ubb&utm_campaign=badges"><img src="http://images.thenestbaby.com/badges/tb_sig_itsaboy.gif"></a>

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  • image pammieface:
    image ReturnOfKuus:
    image jez_girl:

    I completely disagree. If you want to be pearl-clutchy go right ahead, but don't pretend that you speak for "American culture". Culture is always changing. With the number of tattooed people increasing every day, acceptance of tattoos is increasing as well. Don't want a tattoo? Don't get one. But in my opinion, judging me for mine is akin to judging me by the colour of my skin. You're free to make that judgment, and I'm free to think you're ignorant for doing so.

     FYI, my Indian friend is Indo-Canadian. In your way of thinking, is there a difference between a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in India, and a tattooed person of Indian descent born and raised in Western culture? Is one somehow more acceptable? Please clarify.

    By the way, I'd love to see you present your point of view on tattoos to your home board. I wonder how many tattooed people you could offend there.

     

    They've all heard it, and they know it's the truth.  Yes, tattoos are becoming more common, but that is coincidentally (or not) coinciding with the well-documented pornification of our culture.  Tattoos aren't looking classier - more people are just looking trashy.

    It's not a question of what's acceptable - it's a question of what social class you want to belong to.  And with tattoos, you're limited to middle and under at best.

    Argue all you want, but it's the truth, and as for you, OP, you're not likely to get anywhere with your mother without acknowledging what she's actually upset about and addressing that.

    i'm gonna have to agree with this.  i usually agree with everything kuus says, even though i only usually lurk.  and jez, you only coming in here to yell and protest makes you sound like an ignorant idiot.  we can all have our different opinions, certainly, but you still sound stupid when you try to disagree on this topic, especially since you can't seem to defend your point in an educated and/or mature manner.  oh, well. 

    Maybe you should scroll up, sweetheart. Your champion can't defend her POV and sidesteps my questions. And obviously your reading comprehension is a little lacking, but I'll forgive you that. 

    TTC # 1 since May 2010
    </br>DH: 28; superhero sperm (probably w/ little capes & tights)</br>ME: 30; Factor V Leiden blood disorder; once elevated prolactin levels, now normal; clear HSG; normal vag-cams
    </br>Diagnosis: unexplained IF
    </br>4 rounds of 100 mg Clomid = 4 BFNs
    </br>IUI # 1 Oct 24/12: 100 mg Clomid, Prometrium
    </br>First ever BFP Nov 8/12! Stick, baby, stick!
    </br>

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  • Hmm, still no responses to my questions. I guess we're done here. I'll just leave you with this, Kuus et al?

    Based on your argument, you either:

    A) believe that all tattoos- in every culture and with all personal and cultural significances- indicate lower social class. This makes you elitist, as well as racially and culturally insensitive. (Hence the 'ignorant' and 'racist'.)

    B) believe that tattoos in other cultures hold personal and cultural significance and do not indicate lower social class, but all tattoos in Western society hold no personal or cultural significance and DO indicate lower social class. This requires you to know the cultural and ancestral background of every tattooed person before you judge their 'level' of social class, lest you be racially and culturally insensitive. And of course this still makes you elitist.

    Which do you believe? 

    It's easy to judge trailer park denizens with Pabst beer tramp stamps, but people of all walks of life choose to commemorate their culture and ancestry, life-altering moments, etc. with tattoos. If you don't see the difference, there's no help for you. 

     

    TTC # 1 since May 2010
    </br>DH: 28; superhero sperm (probably w/ little capes & tights)</br>ME: 30; Factor V Leiden blood disorder; once elevated prolactin levels, now normal; clear HSG; normal vag-cams
    </br>Diagnosis: unexplained IF
    </br>4 rounds of 100 mg Clomid = 4 BFNs
    </br>IUI # 1 Oct 24/12: 100 mg Clomid, Prometrium
    </br>First ever BFP Nov 8/12! Stick, baby, stick!
    </br>

    <a href="http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=boy&utm_medium=ubb&utm_campaign=badges"><img src="http://images.thenestbaby.com/badges/tb_sig_itsaboy.gif"></a>

    </br>
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  • image jez_girl:

    Hmm, still no responses to my questions. I guess we're done here. I'll just leave you with this, Kuus et al?

    Based on your argument, you either:

    A) believe that all tattoos- in every culture and with all personal and cultural significances- indicate lower social class. This makes you elitist, as well as racially and culturally insensitive. (Hence the 'ignorant' and 'racist'.)

    B) believe that tattoos in other cultures hold personal and cultural significance and do not indicate lower social class, but all tattoos in Western society hold no personal or cultural significance and DO indicate lower social class. This requires you to know the cultural and ancestral background of every tattooed person before you judge their 'level' of social class, lest you be racially and culturally insensitive. And of course this still makes you elitist.

    Which do you believe? 

    It's easy to judge trailer park denizens with Pabst beer tramp stamps, but people of all walks of life choose to commemorate their culture and ancestry, life-altering moments, etc. with tattoos. If you don't see the difference, there's no help for you. 

     

     

    love your posts! : )

  • image KDJD2012:
    image jez_girl:

    Hmm, still no responses to my questions. I guess we're done here. I'll just leave you with this, Kuus et al?

    Based on your argument, you either:

    A) believe that all tattoos- in every culture and with all personal and cultural significances- indicate lower social class. This makes you elitist, as well as racially and culturally insensitive. (Hence the 'ignorant' and 'racist'.)

    B) believe that tattoos in other cultures hold personal and cultural significance and do not indicate lower social class, but all tattoos in Western society hold no personal or cultural significance and DO indicate lower social class. This requires you to know the cultural and ancestral background of every tattooed person before you judge their 'level' of social class, lest you be racially and culturally insensitive. And of course this still makes you elitist.

    Which do you believe? 

    It's easy to judge trailer park denizens with Pabst beer tramp stamps, but people of all walks of life choose to commemorate their culture and ancestry, life-altering moments, etc. with tattoos. If you don't see the difference, there's no help for you. 

     

     

    love your posts! : )

    Thanks. At least we immature, low-class un-teenagers stick together, right? :)

    TTC # 1 since May 2010
    </br>DH: 28; superhero sperm (probably w/ little capes & tights)</br>ME: 30; Factor V Leiden blood disorder; once elevated prolactin levels, now normal; clear HSG; normal vag-cams
    </br>Diagnosis: unexplained IF
    </br>4 rounds of 100 mg Clomid = 4 BFNs
    </br>IUI # 1 Oct 24/12: 100 mg Clomid, Prometrium
    </br>First ever BFP Nov 8/12! Stick, baby, stick!
    </br>

    <a href="http://www.thebump.com/?utm_source=boy&utm_medium=ubb&utm_campaign=badges"><img src="http://images.thenestbaby.com/badges/tb_sig_itsaboy.gif"></a>

    </br>
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  • image jez_girl:
    image KDJD2012:
    image jez_girl:

    Hmm, still no responses to my questions. I guess we're done here. I'll just leave you with this, Kuus et al?

    Based on your argument, you either:

    A) believe that all tattoos- in every culture and with all personal and cultural significances- indicate lower social class. This makes you elitist, as well as racially and culturally insensitive. (Hence the 'ignorant' and 'racist'.)

    B) believe that tattoos in other cultures hold personal and cultural significance and do not indicate lower social class, but all tattoos in Western society hold no personal or cultural significance and DO indicate lower social class. This requires you to know the cultural and ancestral background of every tattooed person before you judge their 'level' of social class, lest you be racially and culturally insensitive. And of course this still makes you elitist.

    Which do you believe? 

    It's easy to judge trailer park denizens with Pabst beer tramp stamps, but people of all walks of life choose to commemorate their culture and ancestry, life-altering moments, etc. with tattoos. If you don't see the difference, there's no help for you. 

     

     

    love your posts! : )

    Thanks. At least we immature, low-class un-teenagers stick together, right? :)

     

    EXACTLY! haha

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