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Octuplet grandmother sheds some light.....

I feel so bad for this woman

 

LOS ANGELES ? The woman who gave birth to octuplets this week conceived all 14 of her children through in vitro fertilization, is not married and has been obsessed with having children since she was a teenager, her mother said.

Angela Suleman told The Associated Press she was not supportive when her daughter, Nadya Suleman, decided to have more embryos implanted last year.

"It can't go on any longer," she said in a phone interview Friday. "She's got six children and no husband. I was brought up the traditional way. I firmly believe in marriage. But she didn't want to get married."

Nadya Suleman, 33, gave birth Monday in nearby Bellflower. She was expected to remain in the hospital for at least a few more days, and her newborns for at least a month.

A spokeswoman at Kaiser Permanente Bellflower Medical Center said the babies were doing well and seven were breathing unassisted.

While her daughter recovers, Angela Suleman is taking care of the other six children, ages 2 through 7, at the family home in Whittier, about 15 miles east of downtown Los Angeles.

She said she warned her daughter that when she gets home from the hospital, "I'm going to be gone."

Angela Suleman said her daughter always had trouble conceiving and underwent in vitro fertilization treatments because her fallopian tubes are "plugged up."

There were frozen embryos left over after her previous pregnancies and her daughter didn't want them destroyed, so she decided to have more children.

Her mother and doctors have said the woman was told she had the option to abort some of the embryos and, later, the fetuses. She refused.

Her mother said she does not believe her daughter will have any more children.

"She doesn't have any more (frozen embryos), so it's over now," she said. "It has to be."

Nadya Suleman wanted to have children since she was a teenager, "but luckily she couldn't," her mother said.

"Instead of becoming a kindergarten teacher or something, she started having them, but not the normal way," he mother said.

Her daughter's obsession with children caused Angela Suleman considerable stress, so she sought help from a psychologist, who told her to order her daughter out of the house.

"Maybe she wouldn't have had so many kids then, but she is a grown woman," Angela Suleman said. "I feel responsible and I didn't want to throw her out."

Yolanda Garcia, 49, of Whittier, said she helped care for Nadya Suleman's autistic son three years ago.

"From what I could tell back then, she was pretty happy with herself, saying she liked having kids and she wanted 12 kids in all," Garcia told the Long Beach Press-Telegram.

"She told me that all of her kids were through in vitro, and I said 'Gosh, how can you afford that and go to school at the same time?"' she added. "And she said it's because she got paid for it."

Garcia said she did not ask for details.

Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram.

Her fertility doctor has not been identified. Her mother told the Los Angeles Times all the children came from the same sperm donor but she declined to identify him.

Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children. Certificates for the other children were not immediately available.

The news that the octuplets' mother already had six children sparked an ethical debate. Some medical experts were disturbed to hear that she was offered fertility treatment, and troubled by the possibility that she was implanted with so many embryos.

Others worried that she would be overwhelmed trying to raise so many children and would end up relying on public support.

The eight babies ? six boys and two girls ? were delivered by Cesarean section weighing between 1 pound, 8 ounces and 3 pounds, 4 ounces. Forty-six physicians and staff assisted in the deliveries.

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Re: Octuplet grandmother sheds some light.....

  • What kind of fertility doctor allows this to happen?  This is the idiocy of being pro-life in any and all cases.  Embryos can and should be destroyed or donated to research in certain cases.  This is one of them.
  • In her defense, 6 kids and she still managed to get a degree at about the same time the last child was born.  Good on her.  I will no longer accept excuses from anyone as to why they haven't finished school. 
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  • image BlackMamba*:
    What kind of fertility doctor allows this to happen?  This is the idiocy of being pro-life in any and all cases.  Embryos can and should be destroyed or donated to research in certain cases.  This is one of them.

    BM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    That is all. 

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  • like eph (eliz) said before, its still just the mom's word that she did IVF. the daughter told the mom it was IVF. I think no doc is coming forward because there was no doc - and somehow she got her hands on drugs and f***ked the dude down the street, basically. We know now the four older ones have a legal dad, NOT a "sperm donor", so imo, it wont be longer until we find out that these 8 have the same father - or atleast a dad on their birth certificate. shes works at a fertility clinic - its not unrealistic that she had access to drugs and regularly used (abused) them. AND now we are seeing she has needed therapy in the past, and is being enabled by her parents - imo this is all pointing to the fertility drug abuse argument.
  • image BlackMamba*:
    What kind of fertility doctor allows this to happen?  This is the idiocy of being pro-life in any and all cases.  Embryos can and should be destroyed or donated to research in certain cases.  This is one of them.

    A pro life person could have chosen not to create so many embryos in the first place, or not to have them transferred all at once, saving the rest for future pregnancies. 

  • She also told the nanny the first kids were IVF, before the most recent pregnancy if I'm reading it correctly.  I don't think she planted a preemptive lie just in case of HOM's. 
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  • 6 kids in 7years does not scream IVF to me.  IVF itself takes at least two months to complete, and usually longer.  No way a doc would let her cycle that frequently with that many prior pregnancies.  Also, no way a doc would let her start IVF with 15month old twins, which is when she would have had to have started her last cycle (kids are 7, 6, 5, 3, 2 yo twins).  She was not infertile. She is crazy and I bet she go her hands on some fsh or clomid and went bananas.  I don't believe a word anyone in this family is saying.
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    I am a runner, knitter, scientist, DE-IVF veteran, and stage III colon cancer survivor.
  • I am sorry but this part of the story "Birth certificates reviewed by The Associated Press identify a David Solomon as the father for the four oldest children,"  is journalism gone WAY TOO FAR!!!!
  • She could have gone to MX for what she needed or maybe she lied about any/all of the prior kids being IVF/chemically assisted.

    At any rate, this entire situation is a mess, effed up and beyond bizzare. It's worse than a train wreck at this point.

    YOu'll see all the crappy junk rags storming this woman's door; everybody's going to want first up to interview this nut. And they'll pay big time money, too.

  • image doctorwho:
    In her defense, 6 kids and she still managed to get a degree at about the same time the last child was born.  Good on her.  I will no longer accept excuses from anyone as to why they haven't finished school. 

    Sorry, I do not buy for one second that one can effectively raise six children with no partner AND finish college at the same time. No way.

    I'm starting to doubt a lot of what the media is saying about this mom. Last week I read that she worked for an RE (if true that would actually explain a lot) but now I'm hearing she's unemployed. Whatever.......the only thing we know for sure is that it's a train wreck.

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