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MM: Newborn Baby and Saving Money

Greetings All,

We are still very early on in my first pregnancy and I am hesitant to plan too much until it's further along given my past experience, but I still want to start thinking about things.

We have done some basics like paid off our student loans, saved up our OOP max for healthcare via my HSA and have an additional $2,000 for startup costs (nursery, diapers, etc). But I am wondering what tips and tricks some of your MM'ers learned in your first year with a child that helped you save money or things that you wasted money on and wish you hadn't.

Would love to hear any advice you can share and thanks in advance! 
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  • As you get further along think about stocking your deep freezer with meals that you can pop in the oven/crock pot when you don't have the time or energy to cook.  This will increase your grocery budget a bit but will reduce the amount of pizza/take out ordered.

    Consider second hand items for clothings and baby toys that only get used for a month or two.  I have a double closet STUFFED with things my sister handed down to me.

    Don't stock up too much on diapers because your preferred brand may not work well with your baby.  Every brand fits a little different and of course every baby is shaped a little different.

    Congrats!
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  • AprilZ81 said:
    Don't stock up too much on diapers because your preferred brand may not work well with your baby.  Every brand fits a little different and of course every baby is shaped a little different.
    On this same topic.  Hold off on buying things like rockers, pack and plays, swings, etc.  Some babies just don't like them.  We ended up using out pack and play for an impromptu baby gate more than anything else.

    We also bought diapers one box at a time until he hit about size 3 or 4.  He was going through sizes very rapidly.  At least with diapers, most places will let you exchange sizes if you haven't opened the box.  Assuming you're not cloth diapering.
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  • hoffsehoffse
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    Congrats!

    We have not been successful yet, but I've obsessed over this long enough to have a sense of certain things.  I think for most couples the single greatest expense is childcare or lost income to stay at home, followed by increased health insurance costs.  Then if you are going to do college savings, that may be significant as well (though obviously a lot more optional than the other two things).

    I would suggest living on a baby budget while pregnant so that once these expenses hit you aren't shocked by them.  In the meantime the money you aren't spending can be used to pad an emergency fund, get a jump start on the 529, or maybe maybe some last-minute improvements to your house, etc. that need to be done but that would be super disruptive with a little one.  

    Of course there are expenses as they grow too, but it seems like many people have fewer consumable expenses of their own which offsets it to some degree - suddenly you aren't going to movies, concerts, etc. as often.  So you basically trade baby expenses for your previous entertainment expenses.  
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  • Once we found out I was pregnant with our first, I called our health insurance company to find out what was covered and what wasn't (certain genetic tests were not).  We saved our family OOP Max, starting putting money aside (average daycare cost) and just increasing general savings because my then employer didn't offer anything outside of FMLA (no short term disability, etc) and I hoarded my sick and vacation time so I could use that once I had the baby.  Half way through the pregnancy I started planning freezer meals but waited until closer to my due date before I made any.  I did start buying extra laundry detergent when I found it on sale or had coupons.  I have pretty sensitive skin and I knew early on I wouldn't be using a detergent like Dreft.  We used Amazon subscribe and save (great prices on diapers and wipes).  You could pick up a store gift card each time you run in (I'm a Target fan) and stock pile them and use them after baby arrives and you know what diapers work best.
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  • Obviously save your family max OOP by the time baby arrives.  That's what we did.  We also saved some money to buy the baby necessities that we didn't get with out baby showers.  We didn't buy any baby stuff until mid 3rd trimester.  We did buy a cute outfit once we found out the gender at 20 weeks.  We had a swing handed down to us that was a life saver.  It's in our basement now.  I also 2nd amazon subscribe and save.  We used it for diapers and it was nice not having to go out and buy them as they came to our door every month.  Freezer meals are a must wether you have a vaginal or c/section - you sure as heck aren't going to feel like cooking every night.

    Glad your pregnancy is going well :)  If we lived closer I'd give you my maternity clothes.  I'm going thru our basement this week to re organize before DD gets out of school for summer break.  I'm going to donate all my maternity clothes and probably the baby/toddler toys that don't mean much to me.
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  • One of the best things we did was lived on a very strict budget while pregnant and just stockpiled that money.  It meant when baby came home we had quite a bit sitting there, but it made me feel much better knowing it was there just in case.  There are so many unknowns with having a child.

    A few things I found we spent money on right after DD was born.  Things like nursing bras (once supply was leveled out), tops to nurse in, random medical/breast feeding supplies, more swaddles, extra sheets for the bassinette, a sleep suit thing for her after a couple months that was stupidly expensive but a Godsend.

    I made some freezer meals and that helped us to not grab something quick or get takeout.  This time I've prepped and froze breakfast items.  That was the hardest for me during leave with DD and that I didn't expect.  I was lucky to eat anything besides granola bars before 2pm, and H leaves for work around 4:30am or earlier so he couldn't bring me anything. 
    We also bought DD a convertible seat much earlier than anticipated.  We have a bunch of tall people in our family (tallest is 7ft) and it's on both sides (H is 6'5", MIL is 6', my dad is 6'4")), but she was 25" by 1 month.  By 4 months she was 29" and her bucket seat maxed out at 30".  Definitely not an expense I anticipated to have that early.

    Also, don't buy much clothes beforehand.  You have no clue how they're going to grow, what size will fit them in which season, which brand will fit properly. 

    By far our most expensive time was actually when I went back to work.  So much takeout, quick food, and we paid for convenience.

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    1/14 PCOS / Gluten Free Diet to hopefully regulate my system. 
    Chemical Pregnancy 03/14
    Surprise BFP 6/14, Beta #1: 126 Beta #2: 340  Stick baby, stick! EDD 2/17/15
    Riley Elaine born 2/16/15

    TTC 2.0   6/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 9/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 6/16
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    Don't get too much in the beginning. Both of my girls refused to sleep on their backs so they ended up in swings (we went through 2 motors) and an infant seat. We had the crib all set up and both didn't use it for 6+ months. We also had clothing (mostly gifts) that they never wore- just outgrew them, wasn't the right season, etc. We donated everything after DD#2 went onto the next size. We never got a pack and play, high chair (we just used the small seat you can attach to a chair), or exersaucer- the latter they used a lot at day care and we didn't really have the space in our house. 
    If you plan on breastfeeding, I recommend a good pump. The medela one was great for work and I used it for both girls. We had reusable storage tubes and the bags- both worked well. I didn't have a ton of stash so it didn't cost too much or take up too much space in the freezer. We had to supplement with formula for a few months until they were a year because they lost interest in nursing and I couldn't maintain the demand. But each made it about 9 months. 
    The one thing we splurged on that was really worth it was the City mini stroller with infant carrier attachment. Life changing for long walks- loved that stroller! I credit it with losing all of the baby weight by the time I went back to work for both girls. 
    The one thing I wished we splurged on would be newborn pictures- to have a few professional ones would have been wonderful. They do such a nice job and they're only so small for such a short time. 

    So exciting- congrats!
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  • cbee817 said:
    Don't get too much in the beginning. Both of my girls refused to sleep on their backs so they ended up in swings (we went through 2 motors) and an infant seat. We had the crib all set up and both didn't use it for 6+ months. We also had clothing (mostly gifts) that they never wore- just outgrew them, wasn't the right season, etc. We donated everything after DD#2 went onto the next size. We never got a pack and play, high chair (we just used the small seat you can attach to a chair), or exersaucer- the latter they used a lot at day care and we didn't really have the space in our house. 
    If you plan on breastfeeding, I recommend a good pump. The medela one was great for work and I used it for both girls. We had reusable storage tubes and the bags- both worked well. I didn't have a ton of stash so it didn't cost too much or take up too much space in the freezer. We had to supplement with formula for a few months until they were a year because they lost interest in nursing and I couldn't maintain the demand. But each made it about 9 months. 
    The one thing we splurged on that was really worth it was the City mini stroller with infant carrier attachment. Life changing for long walks- loved that stroller! I credit it with losing all of the baby weight by the time I went back to work for both girls. 
    The one thing I wished we splurged on would be newborn pictures- to have a few professional ones would have been wonderful. They do such a nice job and they're only so small for such a short time. 

    So exciting- congrats!

    Yes!  I still can't get look at our newborn pictures enough.  Such an amazing time in our lives.  They were worth every penny.

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    Clomid 50mg 9/13 = BFP! EDD 6/7/14 M/C 5w6d Found 11/4/13
    1/14 PCOS / Gluten Free Diet to hopefully regulate my system. 
    Chemical Pregnancy 03/14
    Surprise BFP 6/14, Beta #1: 126 Beta #2: 340  Stick baby, stick! EDD 2/17/15
    Riley Elaine born 2/16/15

    TTC 2.0   6/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 9/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 6/16
    BFP 9/16  EDD 6/3/17
    Beta #1: 145 Beta #2: 376 Beta #3: 2,225 Beta #4: 4,548
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  • bmo88bmo88
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    Ugh, I am having major login issues with the Nest lately and has been part of the reason I have lurked (can't access via mobile right now). 

    Thank you so much everyone! This is really helpful. I am browsing on my break right now, but plan to respond this evening.
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  • We tried to do the newborn ones that they take at the hospital.  I don't think the girl really knew what she was doing.  Took pics of the kid, some with me and the kid.  None with mom and the kid or all of us together.  My wife was so pissed we ended up getting none of them and never made it out to get our own done. :(
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  • yes pay a professional photographer to do newborn photos - worth every penny!
  • Lots of great advice already! One thing I'll add is to try on baby carriers before getting one. My carrier has been invaluable in allowing me to grocery shop, do chores, etc. but I got a brand on sale initially that ended up killing my back, so I had to get a second one. Cloth diapering to save money is also working great for us, but I know it's not for everyone! If you're interested I'm glad to share some resources. We did find a daycare that will cloth. 

    With your pump, see if your insurance will let you pay a little more for one that comes with a battery pack. I got the Medela Pisa without realizing it needed to be plugged in, and have now spent way more on various attachments that allow me to use it on the go than the upgrade fee to the Freestyle would have been. 

    Later in pregnancy see if you can get a read on the size of your baby. Predictions aren't always accurate, but if you think he or she will be 9 lbs+ you won't need NB clothes or diapers, and some NB things like swings, bouncers, and gyms will be outgrown very quickly. I'm on the extreme end of this-I had a 10.7 lb baby. He was out of 3 month clothes by a month, and we'll also need to upgrade to the convertible seat soon. If I have another kid past this seat's expiration date I won't even bother with the bucket since I just wear him in stores, anyway. Our bassinet never worked well since he could too easily bang his arms on the sides, so we moved the crib into our room for him to sleep in. We have a rock'n'play but he's down to about half an inch of clearance, and his feet stick off the edge of our baby gym/play mat. 

    Be prepared for surprises on your bill. Our delivery copay, for example, only covers the hospital's charges, not my MW's services. If you have a boy and circ, that's likely to be extra too since it's not mandatory. If your plan has a low OOP max of course you'll just hit it, but mine is very high so I will not. 

    Budget a little for new clothes, underwear, etc. for yourself. Nothing fits right anymore and getting some pants that make me feel like a normal person has been worth the money to me. Don't buy too many nursing bras until after delivery so you can learn what style you like and what your true size will be. It may surprise you. I'd size up your maternity clothes. Mine were too small by the end and it was a source of major frustration. 

    Men feel free to skip this part...TMI...you'll need lots of overnight size pads, pantyliners, etc. for after delivery in case you want to watch for sales. 
  • If I have another kid past this seat's expiration date I won't even bother with the bucket since I just wear him in stores, anyway.
    We loved our bucket!  Especially when he'd fall asleep in the car.  Just unclicked him from the base and dropped him into the cart or bring him into the home.  That thing was a life saver!
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  • jtmh2012 said:
    If I have another kid past this seat's expiration date I won't even bother with the bucket since I just wear him in stores, anyway.
    We loved our bucket!  Especially when he'd fall asleep in the car.  Just unclicked him from the base and dropped him into the cart or bring him into the home.  That thing was a life saver!
    I think most agree with you! I'm just not sure it would be worth getting again for us if we're only going to get 4 months out of it. 
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    My biggest advice is shop at consignment sales. This website lists them by zip code. They usually happen in spring and fall. I wish I had done this for baby clothes. I only got started around the time they hit 2T. There will always be infant sizes in nearly perfect condition. Www.consignmentmommies.com. 

    That and Ikea has great cribs. 


  • Men feel free to skip this part...TMI...you'll need lots of overnight size pads, pantyliners, etc. for after delivery in case you want to watch for sales. 
    My hospital sent me home with extra mesh undies and pads, I think it was only "bad" for about 48-36 hours after delivery.  I used pads for a little over 2 weeks and then pantyliners for maybe another week.  It certainly wasn't as bad as I expected and a few packs of your favorite brand will likely be all you need.
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  • AprilZ81 said:


    Men feel free to skip this part...TMI...you'll need lots of overnight size pads, pantyliners, etc. for after delivery in case you want to watch for sales. 
    My hospital sent me home with extra mesh undies and pads, I think it was only "bad" for about 48-36 hours after delivery.  I used pads for a little over 2 weeks and then pantyliners for maybe another week.  It certainly wasn't as bad as I expected and a few packs of your favorite brand will likely be all you need.

    This was similar for me.  I had bought a huge pack of the biggest pads I could get, and ended up having H go out and get me just regular pads.  They were much more comfortable.
    I did get extra of the witch hazel pads though and kept a container of them in each bathroom. 



    Really, a good tip in general is that you aren't going to know what your needs are until baby is here.  Just don't over-prepare, as hard as that is to hold off on, especially with the first baby.  You'll quickly learn what things are needs and what doesn't make sense for you to have. 
    It doesn't hurt to earmark a specific amount of money set aside to purchase things as you see the need after baby is here.  Amazon Prime was my BFF those first few months when I was looking for something specific.  We were team green with DD and this one, but it actually helped me to not get too many things beforehand.  Once DD was born she was showered with everything frilly and pink. Then I posted on our local FB sale group with an ISO for the size and what items I was looking for.  Much cheaper, and they grow out of it so quickly anyways that 2nd hand is a great way to go.

    TTC since 1/13  DX:PCOS 5/13 (long, anovulatory cycles)
    Clomid 50mg 9/13 = BFP! EDD 6/7/14 M/C 5w6d Found 11/4/13
    1/14 PCOS / Gluten Free Diet to hopefully regulate my system. 
    Chemical Pregnancy 03/14
    Surprise BFP 6/14, Beta #1: 126 Beta #2: 340  Stick baby, stick! EDD 2/17/15
    Riley Elaine born 2/16/15

    TTC 2.0   6/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 9/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 6/16
    BFP 9/16  EDD 6/3/17
    Beta #1: 145 Beta #2: 376 Beta #3: 2,225 Beta #4: 4,548
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  • confession - before we left the hospital I took not only the pads and mesh under ware in my room but also the room next door that was vacant :)  oh and I didn't have a vaginal birth.  Also took home that little bottle that you fill with water to wash down there

    If we ever go into newborn phase for a 2nd time there really is very little that a baby needs and knowing it will be in our room for the first 6 months you don't even really have to decorate a room that won't be used.
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  • @vlagrl35 the hospital pretty much told us to take anything that wasn't tied down.  The one nurse even grabbed all the pads and underwear and all the stuff in the bassinet drawer and tossed it in bags for us.
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  • Congrats! I'm 27 weeks with my first and my number 1 tip has been to "pay" weekly daycare costs for your area into savings. It took us forever to get pregnant and that one thing is why I'm able to take a 5 month leave even though 3 won't be paid. Plus I'm used to not having that money to spend so it won't be a big change when we start daycare.

    Take all the used stuff you can - it saves you a ton and you won't need most of it for very long (exceptions being safety items like the carseat). My entire maternity wardrobe is hand-me-downs except for 2 pairs of leggings and not having to pay for or pick out new clothes when I feel lumpy and not pretty has been great. 

    We are also doing a bunch of last minute house projects before baby comes while we have the time and motivation. We started with safety issues (like the front stairs that basically fell over when the workers came to rip them out this morning lol) but hopefully we'll have energy left after those to do one or two that will just make the house look nicer too. 
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    @LillibetteV Thanks for the advice. I do plan to accept any and all used items sent out way (other than car seat and other safety items). I am even hoping I can "borrow" a few things from friends that are only used in the first few months. I haven't told anyone other than our parents, so I can't ask yet, but plan to start prepping a little more in the second trimester. Luckily we don't have too many home improvement projects because we tackled those last year. I do like the idea of socking away child care costs each month. We will probably start that in June once my final grad tuition bill (which is about the cost of child care) is paid.

    vlagrl35 For as much as hospitals charge for your short stay, I don't blame you for grabbing all you can!

    smerka I love shopping at second hand stores and consignment shops. I had no idea a website like that existed, thanks for sharing!

    Xstatic3333 We are open to cloth diapering, but would need to make sure we find a daycare that will do it first. I think our local library does a mom's group and once a month they do a "try a baby carrier day" where you can check out a bunch of brands...so hoping to tap into that after baby arrives to try a bunch out before buying.

    I am a little confused about the breast pump with my insurance and need to call. It says I can rent one through them, but not sure if I would have to give it back, which seems strange. But that's what the plan document says. My OOP max is $2,500 because it's a high deductible plan, so I get no benefits until I hit it. My plan estimates childbirth and prenatal care will be at least $2,700...so we will hit the max for sure, but shouldn't have to pay after that. Also, great tips on trying to estimate the size of baby...I hadn't thought of that in terms of clothing sizes!

    brij2006 Definitely trying not to buy or prepare too much, but also wanting to find a middle ground of having the basics in place so we don't have to scramble right after birth. It can get confusing at first though because so many different moms recommend different things to start off. 

    cbee817 Thanks for the stroller tip! Ugh, that's something we will have to research for sure...I never knew how many different stroller/carrier systems there were before just doing a "simple" google search.

    hoffse We are working on developing a more strict budget and will need to commit in June once grad school is paid off. We have a good budget now, but are a bit flexible at times.


    For those who recommend professional photos, we are definitely wanting to do that. The one thing I am grateful for about our wedding was investing in good, professional photos. They are the only things we have to look back on that special day and bring a lot of happiness, so I am looking forward to having quality photos of our child.

    Thank you so much to everyone who has provided very helpful tips so far!
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  • Congrats. Lots of great ideas already. I have 4 kiddos...here's my advice...

    1. I echo anyone who said wait on buying a lot of bigger ticket items to see what your child likes. It's true, some kids hate the swing, but love the little vibrating seats. When you do decide what your child needs, try Craigslist. There are so many families selling nearly new items for very cheap! We bought a swing in September. Used with one child previously and retails new for $100. Paid $30 cash. I'm getting ready to re-sell it for $50. ;o)

    2. Get the best possible car seat. Safety always comes first! This is where you never skimp or go second-hand.

    3. I agree on the diapers - don't load up on one brand or size until you know what your kiddo needs. If you are doing a hospital delivery, then they send some diapers home with you anyways.

    4. For us, a MUST-HAVE were Swaddle-Me blankets. They are swaddles, but they have Velcro built in so the kid stays put and doesn't wiggle out! We didn't have them with our first two babies and did for the second two and we wish we had them for all four! They come in 3 packs in variety of colors and designs. Try Amazon.

    5. I was never a huge fan of wipe warmers...seemed like an unnecessary expense considering a wipe will cool of to room temperature soon after coming out of the warmer anyways...

    6. Another thing NOT to stock up on are pacifiers OR bottles. You have no idea what style your child will like.

    7. I echo the PP who mentioned clothing for you. Your body likely won't go back into pre-pregnancy clothing for awhile, but the maternity stuff will be too big. One of the best things I bought for post-partum and nursing were bras from Motherhood Maternity - the t-shirt style I think they are called. I wore one during labor too.

    8. Another must-have is a Boppy pillow. We have two. LOL.



  • 5. I was never a huge fan of wipe warmers...seemed like an unnecessary expense considering a wipe will cool of to room temperature soon after coming out of the warmer anyways...
    I second this.  We don't even plug ours in anymore.  We just use it as a wipe container.  Only the lid on ours heats up, so once you go through one or two, the rest aren't as warm.
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    jtmh2012 said:
    If I have another kid past this seat's expiration date I won't even bother with the bucket since I just wear him in stores, anyway.
    We loved our bucket!  Especially when he'd fall asleep in the car.  Just unclicked him from the base and dropped him into the cart or bring him into the home.  That thing was a life saver!
    Babies sleeping in bucket car seats in restaurants or in their homes rank fourth on my list of "don't you know that's unsafe?!" things that miff me.  Only things above it are 1. Co-sleeping, 2. Owning pets like ferrets, and 3. Parents who mow with their babies or kids on their laps.
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  • als1982 said:
    jtmh2012 said:
    If I have another kid past this seat's expiration date I won't even bother with the bucket since I just wear him in stores, anyway.
    We loved our bucket!  Especially when he'd fall asleep in the car.  Just unclicked him from the base and dropped him into the cart or bring him into the home.  That thing was a life saver!
    Babies sleeping in bucket car seats in restaurants or in their homes rank fourth on my list of "don't you know that's unsafe?!" things that miff me.  Only things above it are 1. Co-sleeping, 2. Owning pets like ferrets, and 3. Parents who mow with their babies or kids on their laps.
    Crib bumpers is top of my list! Every time we walk into a baby store and I see them on display I tell my husband "ugh - people are so stupid. Is a cute instagram photo of the nursery really worth smothering your child??" and every time he's like "yes I know dear - we won't have one. chill" haha
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  • als1982 said:
    jtmh2012 said:
    If I have another kid past this seat's expiration date I won't even bother with the bucket since I just wear him in stores, anyway.
    We loved our bucket!  Especially when he'd fall asleep in the car.  Just unclicked him from the base and dropped him into the cart or bring him into the home.  That thing was a life saver!
    Babies sleeping in bucket car seats in restaurants or in their homes rank fourth on my list of "don't you know that's unsafe?!" things that miff me.  Only things above it are 1. Co-sleeping, 2. Owning pets like ferrets, and 3. Parents who mow with their babies or kids on their laps.
    Crib bumpers is top of my list! Every time we walk into a baby store and I see them on display I tell my husband "ugh - people are so stupid. Is a cute instagram photo of the nursery really worth smothering your child??" and every time he's like "yes I know dear - we won't have one. chill" haha

    Lol.  This is my husband with me about car seats.  DD is a little over 2 and still rear facing.  I can barely fit into our Mustang with her behind me.  Especially with an 8 month pregnant belly.  But I still can't pull myself to flip her around.  Even at age 2 it's still 5x safer for her to be rear facing.  I'll be scrunched up and uncomfortable so she can be 5x safer. Every time he suggests it I just give him that look and he says "yeah yeah, it's 5 times safer, and no matter what I won't win this argument."  That's right.  So give up.

    TTC since 1/13  DX:PCOS 5/13 (long, anovulatory cycles)
    Clomid 50mg 9/13 = BFP! EDD 6/7/14 M/C 5w6d Found 11/4/13
    1/14 PCOS / Gluten Free Diet to hopefully regulate my system. 
    Chemical Pregnancy 03/14
    Surprise BFP 6/14, Beta #1: 126 Beta #2: 340  Stick baby, stick! EDD 2/17/15
    Riley Elaine born 2/16/15

    TTC 2.0   6/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 9/15 
    Chemical Pregnancy 6/16
    BFP 9/16  EDD 6/3/17
    Beta #1: 145 Beta #2: 376 Beta #3: 2,225 Beta #4: 4,548
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  • I'll just go sit over here and keep quiet. :)  No desire to stir the pot.....
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  • Have you seen the breathable ones? They fit tight against the crib rails but they are soft mesh, with tons of tiny holes so breathable. We've used those with all four kids. Super great to keep kids' limbs from getting stuck between the rails which is very painful...
  • brij2006 said:
    jtmh2012 said:
    I'll just go sit over here and keep quiet. :)  No desire to stir the pot.....

    So yeah, you do you.  Parenting doesn't come with a handbook and is trial and error.  What works for some, doesn't work for others.  What's a priority to some, isn't to others.
    Good point.  We turned our son around as soon as local state law and the car seat requirements allowed for it.  Car rides have been a lot more enjoyable and he's a lot more comfortable (no more bent up legs).  We didn't have crib bumpers initially, but put them on as soon as he was mobile and he's spent more time in our bed than I care to count.

    He's 2 1/2 years old and hasn't died yet.  No emergency trips to the hospital.  Etc.

    But, like brij said, we each do what works for us. :)
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